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and richard hermann, new york criminal defense lawyer joining us from las vegas. richard, the supreme court has choices of cases it could take here. it decided to take these two, doma and proposition 8. why do you think they took these and not others? >> you know, after this election, this issue is so ripe for the supreme court the jurisdictions are so split in their laws, many states recognizing same-sex marriage and performing same-sex marriages. some states not recognizing them. this is the perfect scenario for the supreme court to step in and ultimately make a ruling. there are over 1,000 cases, joe, in which federal laws are impacted by marital status. the time has come. it's ripe. prop 8 was on the doorstep for the supreme court. here we go. >> avery, we were trading e-mails a little bit a while ago. one of the questions i asked you was whether the supreme court essentially gave itself an emergency escape hatch with one of the cases it chose. can you talk about that? >> late yesterday, as you know, joe, the supreme court amended its grant of review when it s
and richard hermann, new york criminal defense lawyer joining us from las vegas. richard, the supreme court has choices of cases it could take here. it decided to take these two, doma and proposition 8. why do you think they took these and not others? >> you know, after this election, this issue is so ripe for the supreme court the jurisdictions are so split in their laws, many states recognizing same-sex marriage and performing same-sex marriages. some states not recognizing them. this...
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but the court also said it would hear a challenge to the defense of marriage act passed under president clinton that defined marriage between a man and woman for the purposes of federal law. the question is why now. why did the supreme court choose this moment? nine states and washington, d.c. all recognize same-sex marriage now. that doesn't seem like many, but it's happening quickly. three of those states people voted to legal marriage in november. first time ever done so. there's a big public opinion trend here. since '04, polls have been asking people should it be legal or illegal for gay couples to get married. 59% of people said they thought it should be against the law. in 2012 it was almost the opposite. 53% favor making it legal. pew has been asking the question since 1996. when 65% of people were against same-sex marriage. by october of this year, 49% were for marriage equality while 40% opposed it. one more set of numbers. gallop released their polling this week. 53% of people polled support legalizing same-sex marriage. but look inside the poll. among young people 18 to 29-y
but the court also said it would hear a challenge to the defense of marriage act passed under president clinton that defined marriage between a man and woman for the purposes of federal law. the question is why now. why did the supreme court choose this moment? nine states and washington, d.c. all recognize same-sex marriage now. that doesn't seem like many, but it's happening quickly. three of those states people voted to legal marriage in november. first time ever done so. there's a big...
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one is doma, defense of marriage act. this administration won't defend it in the courts. if that gets struck down, what does that say to cases where people have been allowed to marry in the same gender. what happens if doma gets struck down by the court, 5-4, whatever. >> the ridiculously named defense of marriage act would be gone. >> what would it mean to a person married? >> that would bemean couples married in those states would be recognized by the federal government. would mean we still have a lot of work to do and depending how they rule in the prop 8 case we still need other states to move forward with the right to marry. >> an honor to have you on and elizabeth, glad to have you back in a much bigger studio now. the republican establishment at war with his crazy wing, said they lost election because i ideologues pulled mitt romney too far to the right. wrong says the right ring, we lost because mitt romney wasn't right wing enough. the winner will determine whether the gop returns to the center or becomes a more fringy party. >>> two people get in the room. the p
one is doma, defense of marriage act. this administration won't defend it in the courts. if that gets struck down, what does that say to cases where people have been allowed to marry in the same gender. what happens if doma gets struck down by the court, 5-4, whatever. >> the ridiculously named defense of marriage act would be gone. >> what would it mean to a person married? >> that would bemean couples married in those states would be recognized by the federal government....
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as widely expected they agreed to take up a challenge to the federal defense of marriage act, which is the federal law that says the federal government cannot recognize same-sex marriages even in the states where they're legal. but and i think this is the surprising part the justices also aagreed to take up a challenge to california's proposition 8, which could either be a very narrow decision about california only or the justices could take up the basic question about whether states can deny same sex couples the ability to get married. these cases won't be argued until probably march, but i think it's very surprising. this is a huge action by the supreme court today wading fully into the issue of same-sex marriage. so it's going to mean that this will be an absolute blockbuster term. >> pete, can you talk a little bit about what it means to take two cases in this way at the same time? we know from the aca decision that justice roberts cares deeply about his legacy and the legacy of the court. how do we read that into this discussion? is he going to want to be part of a decision stripp
as widely expected they agreed to take up a challenge to the federal defense of marriage act, which is the federal law that says the federal government cannot recognize same-sex marriages even in the states where they're legal. but and i think this is the surprising part the justices also aagreed to take up a challenge to california's proposition 8, which could either be a very narrow decision about california only or the justices could take up the basic question about whether states can deny...
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one is doma, the defense of marriage act. this administration will not defend it in the courts. if that gets struck down, what does that say to cases around the country where people have been allowed to marry in the same gender? chad, on that. what happens it doma gets struck down by the court, 5-4 or whatever? >> the ridiculously named defense of marriage act would be gone obviously. >> what would it mean to a gay person who is married? >> that would mean that couples who are married in those states as well as the district of columbia, their marriages would be recognized by the federal government. now, it would mean we still have a lot of work to do, and depending on how they rule in the prop 8 case, we would still need other states to move forward with the right to marry. >> right. >> thank you. it's an honor to have you on and your organization. elizabeth birch, we are in a much bigger studio. >>> the republican establishment is at war with its crazy wing. they say they lost the election because ideologues pulled mitt romney foo far to the right. that sounds reasonable. wrong
one is doma, the defense of marriage act. this administration will not defend it in the courts. if that gets struck down, what does that say to cases around the country where people have been allowed to marry in the same gender? chad, on that. what happens it doma gets struck down by the court, 5-4 or whatever? >> the ridiculously named defense of marriage act would be gone obviously. >> what would it mean to a gay person who is married? >> that would mean that couples who are...
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pathetic defense. up next, the fiscal cliff. president obama is in campaign mode while republicans are considering -- well, considering. can the president pull off a historic victory? maybe, you're watching hardball. the place for politics. >> welcome back to "hardball." last night, john boehner met one-on-one to crunch a fiscal deal. tfts the first time the two men met alone like this since the summer of 2011. the president was in michigan speaking before autoworkers and selling his tax plan. >> if congress doesn't act soon, meaning the next few weeks, starting on january 1st, everyone is going to see their income taxes go um. it's true. you all don't like that. we can solve this problem. all congress needs to do is pass a law that could prevent a tax hike on the first $250,000 of everybody's income. everybody. [ applause ] that means 98% of americans and probably a hundred percent of ewe. >> some americans are slowly but steadily facing on the reality of fiscal americans. >> there is a growing group of folks that are looking a
pathetic defense. up next, the fiscal cliff. president obama is in campaign mode while republicans are considering -- well, considering. can the president pull off a historic victory? maybe, you're watching hardball. the place for politics. >> welcome back to "hardball." last night, john boehner met one-on-one to crunch a fiscal deal. tfts the first time the two men met alone like this since the summer of 2011. the president was in michigan speaking before autoworkers and...
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then the so-called defensive marriage act that passed in 1996. when you cite those polls, what's so interesting to me is that this first burst on the national scene in 1996 popped up in conservative research when they were running out of issues and they suddenly went, my god, eureka. this gay marriage issue. this is an amazing weapon to use. the american public does not favor it and it can be used politically. karl rove called it the gift that keeps on giving. for many years, it did. one thing the conservatives did not count on are two things. one, most families have a gay son or daughter they love or a cousin or uncle they cherish. the other thing, thomas, is at the end of the day, they didn't anticipate that conservatives themselves would come to see this as a conservative issue. >> sure, it's a traditional value. >> absolutely. >> when you have vehicle dick cheney who has a daughter who wanted to get married and start a family. just not from individuals on the right. we have seen elizabeth now. we have nine states in washington d.c. area havin
then the so-called defensive marriage act that passed in 1996. when you cite those polls, what's so interesting to me is that this first burst on the national scene in 1996 popped up in conservative research when they were running out of issues and they suddenly went, my god, eureka. this gay marriage issue. this is an amazing weapon to use. the american public does not favor it and it can be used politically. karl rove called it the gift that keeps on giving. for many years, it did. one thing...
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edie got a federal estate tax bill for $363,000 because the defense of marriage act requires the federal government to treat edie and thee as strangers. if thea had been tom, it would have been zero. several lower courts found doma unconstitution and it was just a matter of train before edie and the freight train that is the movement woot encounter anthony, aka anthony kennedy. when the supremes get down to assessing doma, we can expect the conservatives to defend doma and the liberals to strike it down. the comp significance of the majority will be determined by the votes of chief justice roberts who has shown he's willing to leave the conservatives if he feels the court's legacy is in peril and kenne kennedy. he wrote the constitution prohibits laws singling out a certain class of citizens for disfavored legal status. it appears doma will get tossed in the dust bin of history. the courts other gay rights case comes from california which gave gays the right to marry and then with proposition 8 took it away. taking away an existing right because of animus was prohibited by the court in a
edie got a federal estate tax bill for $363,000 because the defense of marriage act requires the federal government to treat edie and thee as strangers. if thea had been tom, it would have been zero. several lower courts found doma unconstitution and it was just a matter of train before edie and the freight train that is the movement woot encounter anthony, aka anthony kennedy. when the supremes get down to assessing doma, we can expect the conservatives to defend doma and the liberals to...
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the court also agreed to hear a challenge to the federal defense of marriage act. it defines marriage as "only a legal union between one man and one woman." the law had a big effect on edie windsor of new york who married tea spire in 2007. when spire died the irs sent a tax bill for $300,000 because it did not consider them to be married. >> the injustice. i couldn't believe they were making a stranger of this person i lived with and loveded for 43 something years. >> under that law, same sex couples who are legally married are denied about 1,000 federal benefits that other married couples get. after first supporting the defense of marriage act, the obama administration concluded last year that it violates the constitution. >> we cannot defend the federal government poking its nose into what states are doing and putting the thumb on the scale against same sex companies. >> reporter: house republicans are now taking up the law's legal defense. supporters say it helps preserve traditional marriage. >> unions of two men and two women are not the same thing as a marri
the court also agreed to hear a challenge to the federal defense of marriage act. it defines marriage as "only a legal union between one man and one woman." the law had a big effect on edie windsor of new york who married tea spire in 2007. when spire died the irs sent a tax bill for $300,000 because it did not consider them to be married. >> the injustice. i couldn't believe they were making a stranger of this person i lived with and loveded for 43 something years. >>...
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pathetic defense. up next, the fiscal cliff. president obama is in campaign mode while republicans are considering -- well, considering. can the president pull off a historic victory? maybe, you're watching hardball. the place for politics. ♪ [ male announcer ] with free package pickup from the u.s. postal service the holidays are easy. visit usps.com. pay, print, and have it picked up for free before december 20h for delivery in time for the holidays. you can even give us special instructions on where to find it. free package pickup. from the u.s. postal service. because it's nice to have an extra pair of hands around for the holidays. and his new boss told him two things -- cook what you love, and save your money. joe doesn't know it yet, but he'll work his way up from busser to waiter to chef before opening a restaurant specializing in fish and game from the great northwest. he'll start investing early, he'll find some good people to help guide him, and he'll set money aside from his first day of work to his last, which isn
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his name is michael farris with the home school legal defense association. one of the groups that lobbied hard against this treaty. here's what he said in a radio interview for the american family association. >> the definition of disability is not defined in the treaty, and so my kid wears glasses. now they're disabled. now the u.n. gets control over them. >> the idea that the treaty would give the u.n. vast control over the american children's lives and take away kids with glasses from their parents is just factually incorrect. it's just not true. in july, testifying before the foreign relations committee, former u.s. attorney general dick thornburgh pointed out that kind of stuff is just not true and wouldn't have an impact on u.s. law. mr. thornburgh is a republican. he's also the father of a disabled son. he joins me now. mr. attorney general, i appreciate you being here. the crux of the senator's argument really seems to be just because u.s. law hasn't ever been affected by u.n. treaty doesn't mean it couldn't happen some day. he says under article 6 o
his name is michael farris with the home school legal defense association. one of the groups that lobbied hard against this treaty. here's what he said in a radio interview for the american family association. >> the definition of disability is not defined in the treaty, and so my kid wears glasses. now they're disabled. now the u.n. gets control over them. >> the idea that the treaty would give the u.n. vast control over the american children's lives and take away kids with glasses...
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we asked jeffrey white, a former analyst for the defense intelligence agency, what would happen if the rebels cut off damascus? >> it's the end of the regime. the regime can hang on for a while because it has troops in the city. it has ammunition and supplies and so on but it means the city will fall. it cannot stand alone. >> reporter: u.s. intelligence does not believe damascus is likely to fall right away, but white had an estimate. >> you can feel it. you can sense it. it looks like the regime's being defeated not tomorrow maybe, but not too far off, i think. >> reporter: can you put a time frame on it? >> i'm thinking in the next couple of months. >> reporter: the syrian government has vowed not to use chemical weapons against its own people but it regards the opposition as foreign terrorists. >> pelley: david, thank you. those so-called foreterrorists are actually the syrian people who rose up against the 41-year-old assad family dictatorship. it's estimated 40,000 people have been killed, mostly civilians. one reason assad has held on-- he's had the support of russia but that ma
we asked jeffrey white, a former analyst for the defense intelligence agency, what would happen if the rebels cut off damascus? >> it's the end of the regime. the regime can hang on for a while because it has troops in the city. it has ammunition and supplies and so on but it means the city will fall. it cannot stand alone. >> reporter: u.s. intelligence does not believe damascus is likely to fall right away, but white had an estimate. >> you can feel it. you can sense it. it...
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supreme court today announced it will take up two gay marriage cases prop 8 out of california and the defense of marriage act case out of new york. the court could hear the cases as early as march. okay. two big issues here. let's start first with -- i think we will start with the gay marriage issue first and then we will go to the pot question. steve, how do you think it's going to play out the doma case prop 8 case how two different cases how do you think doma case. >> doma case involves whether someone who had lived with domestic partner for 45 years should have to pay estate taxes where if they lived as husband and wife she would not have to pay estate taxes and prop 8 involves whether or not gay marriage is simply legal. i think what we are seeing here they only need four justices to decide whether to take the issue. i think there is a little bit of politics there because if obama appoints more justices, they are not going to have to get the issue before the court. i think expect that the court going to say that gay marriage is legal just as they said you couldn't ban racially mixed raci
supreme court today announced it will take up two gay marriage cases prop 8 out of california and the defense of marriage act case out of new york. the court could hear the cases as early as march. okay. two big issues here. let's start first with -- i think we will start with the gay marriage issue first and then we will go to the pot question. steve, how do you think it's going to play out the doma case prop 8 case how two different cases how do you think doma case. >> doma case...
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there are no fewer than ten cases arising from the federal defense marriage act. california's proposition 8. they made their way to the high court's doorstep. at least one -- at least one, is kind of likely to get on the docket. sooner rather than later. while we wait, the best person to talk about that is cnn's senior legal analyst jeffrey toobin who literally wrote the book, or a couple of them, on the supreme court. i was talking to you last friday. i was talking to you monday. you are back for another friday. are they going to make me wait again for another day? are or are we going to get something today? >> those that know don't tell and those that tell don't know. that's the rule with the supreme court. it seems likely we will hear if not today then very soon. also, we should hear that they are going to take the case. remember, two federal appeals courts have now declared the -- >> when you say the case -- >> the defense of marriage act. proposition 8 is a very separate matter. when a federal appeals court declares an act of congress unconstitutional the sup
there are no fewer than ten cases arising from the federal defense marriage act. california's proposition 8. they made their way to the high court's doorstep. at least one -- at least one, is kind of likely to get on the docket. sooner rather than later. while we wait, the best person to talk about that is cnn's senior legal analyst jeffrey toobin who literally wrote the book, or a couple of them, on the supreme court. i was talking to you last friday. i was talking to you monday. you are back...
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it's awfully hard to -- for her to mount a defense. >> hi, andrea. those of us who are also admirers of john kerry have a complex position, but i think they're goet both amazing american patriots and have done a great deal of good for the country. either one would be excellent. i guess the specific thing i would contribute today on this topic is to object to the argument that was made in the "new york times" op ed page this morning by an activist who suggested that susan rice has been too friendly to various african strongmen, and the op ed did not resonate very well with me at first, but i went in and did some more research to go through the les of the people that this author listed as people that rice had supported too much, and they happen to have run five of the dozen or 15 best countries in africa over the last decade in terms of their economic performance, and their internal stability. it doesn't mean that everything is perfect, obviously, and i'm sure ambassador rice wouldn't suggest that everything is perfect in countries like uganda, and rwa
it's awfully hard to -- for her to mount a defense. >> hi, andrea. those of us who are also admirers of john kerry have a complex position, but i think they're goet both amazing american patriots and have done a great deal of good for the country. either one would be excellent. i guess the specific thing i would contribute today on this topic is to object to the argument that was made in the "new york times" op ed page this morning by an activist who suggested that susan rice...
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justices agreed to hear arguments about proposition 8 and the defense of marriage act. proposition 8 is the 2008 ballot measure that made same-sex marriage illegal in the state of california. residents voted 52-48 to eliminate the right of same-sex couples to marry. the 9th court of appeals struck down proposition 8 on the basis it stripped individuals of rights previously granted when same-sex marriages were permitted in the state. opponents of same-sex marriage appealed the ruling to the supreme court which will now review the decision. the court will also take up the defensive marriage act case which challenges a section of the law that defines marriage as between a man and a woman for the purposes of receiving federal benefits. this mean the highest court now has the opportunity to rule on whether gay americans have the same constitutional right to marry as hetero sexual americans. the court's decision to hear these cases comes as a series of election victories for same-sex marriage. last month washington, maine, maryland became the first states to approve same-sex
justices agreed to hear arguments about proposition 8 and the defense of marriage act. proposition 8 is the 2008 ballot measure that made same-sex marriage illegal in the state of california. residents voted 52-48 to eliminate the right of same-sex couples to marry. the 9th court of appeals struck down proposition 8 on the basis it stripped individuals of rights previously granted when same-sex marriages were permitted in the state. opponents of same-sex marriage appealed the ruling to the...
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one involving the federal defense of marriage act. the other questioning california's ban o of same-sex marriages, proposition 8. joining me now, the former producer, host of the pioneering pbs serious "in the life," which brought a real unique, authentic voice to real life lgbt stories. did it for about 20 years. good to have you. >> thank you. >> first of all, i want to get your reaction to the supreme court decision on friday to take up the two cases. >> i think my reaction like so many in the community is it's about time. it's about time it's heard. you know, this can not go on, the level of discrimination. i think the majority of americans now support gay meraj. to deny people over rights and responsibilities that are granted by the federal government is absurd. i think it's fantastic that it's finally being heard. >> the series you worked on "in the life," it's going to air its final episode after 20 years of programming, which really helped bring gay and lesbian voices to the national stage. let's take a quick look at some of t
one involving the federal defense of marriage act. the other questioning california's ban o of same-sex marriages, proposition 8. joining me now, the former producer, host of the pioneering pbs serious "in the life," which brought a real unique, authentic voice to real life lgbt stories. did it for about 20 years. good to have you. >> thank you. >> first of all, i want to get your reaction to the supreme court decision on friday to take up the two cases. >> i think...
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the defense of marriage act was challenged by edie windsor from new york. she had a partner for over 40 years. they were married in 2007 in canada, a new york recognized their marriage when miss windsor's partner, her spouse died. her spouse left her entire estate to edie windsor. because of the defense of marriage act edie windsor was left with almost a 400,000 dollar federal estate tax that someone who was the spouse of an opposite sex coup weill not have had to pay. so their defense of marriage act can being challenged as violating the equal protection guarantee in the fifth amendment. >> warner: and how sweeping, if the ruling were in favor of edie windsor, how widely would that apply nationwide? >> well, the challenge here to doma really is that only this provision in doma is unconstitutional as applied to legally married same-sex couples. the argument is that that provision discriminates against them by treating them differently from legally married opposite sex couple its. so if the court found in favor of edie windsor as the lower federal appellate
the defense of marriage act was challenged by edie windsor from new york. she had a partner for over 40 years. they were married in 2007 in canada, a new york recognized their marriage when miss windsor's partner, her spouse died. her spouse left her entire estate to edie windsor. because of the defense of marriage act edie windsor was left with almost a 400,000 dollar federal estate tax that someone who was the spouse of an opposite sex coup weill not have had to pay. so their defense of...
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george takei was on the show last night, and he was offering his defense of marriage equality. let's take a listen to that. >> the core value of marriage is two people who love each other and who are committed to each other. you want security for your spouse, whatever may happen. and our laws do not provide that. in the case of homophobia, we are literally members of the family. we are sons and daughters of heterosexual parents. we are brothers and sisters. we are literally kin, blood kin. and yet we deny the lgbt member of the family the same legal protections and rights that they enjoy. it's irrational. >> steve, we -- you know, this has been called a guy rights issue, but really, it is a civil rights issue. and when you hear an argument, an eloquent argument like that from george takei, it underscores the fact that this is an irrational argument, and it's almost sort of an inevitable, it's the inevitable course for the united states. i wonder what you make of house republicans who have tried to stand in the way of marriage equality. do they have a platform to stand on if the
george takei was on the show last night, and he was offering his defense of marriage equality. let's take a listen to that. >> the core value of marriage is two people who love each other and who are committed to each other. you want security for your spouse, whatever may happen. and our laws do not provide that. in the case of homophobia, we are literally members of the family. we are sons and daughters of heterosexual parents. we are brothers and sisters. we are literally kin, blood...
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the first seeks to strike down the federal government's defense of marriage act, known as doma. the second involves a challenge to california's proposition 8, a voter-approved ballot initiative that outlawed same-sex marriage. a federal appeals court struck down the law earlier this year. the court's decision to weigh in on marriage equality came as same-sex couples began marrying in washington state yesterday. on election day voters there and in maryland and in maine made history when they became the first states to approve same-sex marriage at the ballot box. joining us now to discuss is steve, chair of the gay and lesbian victory fund. great to have you. >> nice to be here, alex. s. >> so a lot of tea leaf read and arm chair prognostication around this. i am by no means a supreme court expert, but when i saw that they were taking up both doma and prop 8, question as to whether they would take up inform i them at all, it seemed to me a signal that the court was ready to make a big decision, and i just cannot imagine, especially when you have conservatives like john roberts, wh
the first seeks to strike down the federal government's defense of marriage act, known as doma. the second involves a challenge to california's proposition 8, a voter-approved ballot initiative that outlawed same-sex marriage. a federal appeals court struck down the law earlier this year. the court's decision to weigh in on marriage equality came as same-sex couples began marrying in washington state yesterday. on election day voters there and in maryland and in maine made history when they...
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he has said that he supports the repeal of the defense of marriage act but he also thinks this is a matter better left to the states, and in an op-ed in the "washington post" recently, greg sargent argued this. because it would help influence the supreme court to reach a broad conclusion on the constitutionality of gay marriage. second, weighing in could help prepare public opinion to accept this right, too. jamal, does the president need to go further? >> public opinion is doing its thing without the president being involved. you just showed numbers that show what's happening. certainly demographically by age. so the president has to make a decision about what he wants to do politically but i think we're already seeing in states, now we've got the first state referendums that have passed, we are starting to see this in judicial cases that it's passing or living through judicial fights. i think this is a train that's already moving. the federal government and national politicians are trying to catch up to it. >> you don't think the president went a step further, that it could provide the k
he has said that he supports the repeal of the defense of marriage act but he also thinks this is a matter better left to the states, and in an op-ed in the "washington post" recently, greg sargent argued this. because it would help influence the supreme court to reach a broad conclusion on the constitutionality of gay marriage. second, weighing in could help prepare public opinion to accept this right, too. jamal, does the president need to go further? >> public opinion is...
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as we talk about these two cases in question, we've got doma, the defense of marriage act as well as proposition 8 to consider. if we first talk about doma, if it is struck down, what does that mean nationally? >> well, it means only that if you live in a state that permits same-sex marriage and you are in a same-sex marriage, that the federal government will recognize your marriage. doma does not require states to do anything. it doesn't require anybody to do anything. but right now it prevents the federal government from granting recognition to same-sex marriages like, for instance, in new york. if that is struck down, the people who are married in states that allow it will get full federal recognition. >> which is over more than 1,000 federal benefits that go along with that. >> it's very important. it would be very significant. >> jonathan, we talk about prop 8 in california. if that is struck down, does that mean marriage equality then for all intents and purposes is legal in all states? does what happens in california then change the relevance for 49 other states? >> well, this
as we talk about these two cases in question, we've got doma, the defense of marriage act as well as proposition 8 to consider. if we first talk about doma, if it is struck down, what does that mean nationally? >> well, it means only that if you live in a state that permits same-sex marriage and you are in a same-sex marriage, that the federal government will recognize your marriage. doma does not require states to do anything. it doesn't require anybody to do anything. but right now it...
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is the defense of marriage case or dome that case. specifically looking at part of the law that gives federal benefits such as tax breaks to heterosexual married couples, not to same-sex married couples. is that equal under the equal protection clause under the constitution. and the other case hollings worth vs. perry the california case. california voters approved a gay marriage ban after the state supreme court ruled that gay marriage is legal. so which one trumps the other? we don't know if the court will hear these cases separately or together, shep. >> shepard: we are hearing strong reaction really from both sides of this. >> particularly over the doma case. gay marriage advocates who want the defense of marriage act struck down say doma creates a gay-only exception to federal recognition of state licensed marriages. and we believe that the federal government should stop discriminating against same sex couples legally married by their states. but defender of traditional marriage between one man and one woman say, quote: since pre
is the defense of marriage case or dome that case. specifically looking at part of the law that gives federal benefits such as tax breaks to heterosexual married couples, not to same-sex married couples. is that equal under the equal protection clause under the constitution. and the other case hollings worth vs. perry the california case. california voters approved a gay marriage ban after the state supreme court ruled that gay marriage is legal. so which one trumps the other? we don't know if...
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her defense attorney wouldn't comment. sabata wrote, i told my mom today was the best day of my life. she just thinks i met a new boy. and instead she met these boys. >> they didn't read me my miranda rights. >> reporter: what led to her arrest wasn't the youtube video, but tips from people like her ex-husband who recognized her in the bank photo. and the video, sabata brandishes a pipe she said is full of weed and complains that
her defense attorney wouldn't comment. sabata wrote, i told my mom today was the best day of my life. she just thinks i met a new boy. and instead she met these boys. >> they didn't read me my miranda rights. >> reporter: what led to her arrest wasn't the youtube video, but tips from people like her ex-husband who recognized her in the bank photo. and the video, sabata brandishes a pipe she said is full of weed and complains that
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does he really want to take all those cuts in domestic and defense spending? aren't there some things he really thinks will hurt the economy over which he's the steward right now? does he want a second depression? no. a second recession. >> it will hurt the economy. i agree entirely. i think the short-term pressure is much more on john boehner, that he has -- if we go to the first of the year and taxes have gone up on everybody, i think that people will largely blame the republicans for that, as think should. having said that though, the longer this goes on, the more likely it is that it puts the economy in a second recession, and heaven knows that's the last thing that obama wants. so the pressure on obama may not be immediate, but it is there. let's remember, by the way, chris, i think it's always important to remind people, your viewers, what we're talking about here. if we all end up diving off this fiscal cliff, it doesn't make the deficit worse. it makes the deficit better. it would go a long way toward curing the deficit, but the deficit isn't the immed
does he really want to take all those cuts in domestic and defense spending? aren't there some things he really thinks will hurt the economy over which he's the steward right now? does he want a second depression? no. a second recession. >> it will hurt the economy. i agree entirely. i think the short-term pressure is much more on john boehner, that he has -- if we go to the first of the year and taxes have gone up on everybody, i think that people will largely blame the republicans for...